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Interview: Restaurateur Debonair - A D Singh of Olive Restaurants

What would be the role of wines in the new restaurant?
AD: The new restaurant will serve gourmet type of food where food and wine will be high end products including the presentation, price point and experience.

What happened to your deal with the Forum restaurant which has shut down?
AD: Everything had been finalized. We had even taken over from Forum. But there was some hassle between the landlord and the lessee and we didn’t think it would work for us. So we let go of that project.

How is the Mumbai Olive doing?
AD: I must say that things have really improved since last November after we made Max (from Italy) the head chef. It took a few months for him to get the rhythm but now things are going great. He has got the Bollywood Brigade coming in every night.

And the Olive Beach Bangalore?
AD: We have probably India’s best young chef working with us there. Mony Chandra used to be Chef de Cuisine under our earlier chef who has shifted to Australia. He is an expert in Mediterranean cuisine and is extremely popular with our clientele.

Thankfully, these two properties have been rocking and have helped us recover some of the financial losses in Delhi?

How much have you been losing every month?
AD: I would say between Rs.1-1.5 million every month. These are actual out-of- pockets, and we are not talking about the loss of profits. Most of these losses have been towards the staff salaries.

What have you done with the old staff in Delhi?
AD: All our top and second rung and even third rung staff have remained with us. Sunil, Mohit, Anirban, Ashish are all with us. We have used some of the staff in our Mumbai and Bangalore properties and also for training and outdoor catering facility, we started.

They will now reap the benefits of staying because with the expansion we are planning, they will get quicker promotions.

Who is handling the Olive Mobile Kitchen?
AD: Anirban is handling it. We have also brought in two senior managers from the hotel industry. We are very serious about this part of our business.

How much catering are you handling at the moment?
AD: Oh, I’d say, twice a week.

What cuisine are you specializing in?
AD: Obviously, Mediterranean food is our USP. But when presentation, and quality service is required, we do have our team to prepare any cuisine. For instance, the first party we did was for a minister. It was Indian food for 40 people. The host told us that it had been the best party he has had in a long time. Our multi skill team really comes in handy.

How much do you charge for your catering?
AD: Our rack rates are Rs.1200-1400. But we do give attractive introductory rates on a case to case basis. We also do special events. For example, we organised a party for a car company in Chandigarh for a launch for 80-90 people. We charged them Rs. 2500 a head.

What about your hotel project that one hears about?
AD: We do plan to open a boutique hotel. It will not be Olive, but a new brand.

Have you decided upon the location?
AD: We are looking at Bangalore right now. We are slightly confused whether we should buy land and build on it, lease land and build on it or lease 3-4 floors in an existing building.

Have you got a time framework in mind?
AD: It will be end 2008- mid 2009.

What do you think of Delhi as the restaurant market in India?
AD: I am sure Delhi is the best market in India. The restaurant culture is here to stay and the city offers the best opportunities.

Don’t you think high real estate prices are a deterrent to a good business model?
AD: The real explosion in prices has occurred during the last one or two years only and I am sure the prices will come down. Yes, right now things could be a bit tight.

Are you not feeling the heat?
AD: Yes, to some extent. But we do get some preferential treatment form landlords due to our name and image. But malls are another option which can be a good venue resource. We are talking to one mall who is very interested in us. In fact, we may be the anchor tenant for it. Due to the stand-alone properties getting too high priced, malls are the new areas where the restaurants will come up.

Do you take the premises on regular lease too.?
We feel we are paying 35-40% more than what we think is the fair price. But we still like to work with landlords on a sharing basis as they are locked in with us and our progress. They may make 2-3 times the flat rent they would get otherwise, but we are happy for them to grow with us.

Do you know, right now the property owner will make more money than we would!
But I can tell you that the quality of restaurants will get better and better in the malls, the way things are right now.

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